WTH There Is No "State of Palestine". Elliott Abrams Explains.
What the Hell Is Going On
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🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
After splashy announcements from our European, Australian, and Canadian allies, later this month, the UN will vote to “recognize a Palestinian State”. While theatrical and without legal import, the vote can only be understood as a reward for terrorism and October 7th. Hamas and too many Palestinians have no interest in state building, institutions, democratic elections, or taking part in the “two state solution” and never have. And yet, while Hamas is still holding hostages and blocking humanitarian aid, the UN is displaying its bias against Israel. Will a “state” ever satisfy Palestinian nationalism? Are European leaders just making a play for domestic favor? Will the Jordanian option ever see the sun? And if we wanted to, how would we return to status quo ante October 7?
Elliott Abrams is a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, the Chairman of the Tikvah Fund, and the Chairman of the Vandenberg Coalition. He previously served as deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security advisor in the administration of President George W. Bush, where he supervised U.S. policy in the Middle East for the White House, and as Special Representative for Iran and Venezuela in Donald Trump’s first administration.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute. |
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| 0:07.1 | Thanks for listening. Here's our show. |
| 0:08.7 | What the hell is going on? |
| 0:10.5 | What's really going on? |
| 0:12.0 | We said, what the hell happened? |
| 0:13.5 | You don't have to know what the hell is on it. |
| 0:15.6 | They see what's going on. |
| 0:16.7 | I don't know what's going on. |
| 0:18.0 | What is going on? |
| 0:20.0 | We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on. |
| 0:28.5 | Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. |
| 0:30.2 | And I'm Mark Tiesin. |
| 0:31.3 | Welcome to our podcast. |
| 0:32.7 | What the hell is going on? |
| 0:34.8 | Mark, what the hell is going on now? |
| 0:36.8 | What the hell is going on is the U.N. is about |
| 0:39.6 | to meet, and a whole host of U.S. allies have announced that they are going to vote in the U.N. |
| 0:46.3 | to recognize a state of Palestine, thus rewarding terrorism, rewarding hostage-taking, and giving |
| 0:54.1 | Palestinians something that they really don't give a crap about, which is a state. |
| 0:58.0 | Because this is the big problem that people don't seem to understand about the Palestinians, is that they're not concerned with having a state. |
| 1:08.1 | They want the state that Israel has. |
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