WTH Is Going On with Mike Pence? The Former VP on January 6, Loyalty to the Constitution, China, Ukraine and More.
What the Hell Is Going On
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4.4 • 633 Ratings
🗓️ 21 December 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
We’re familiar with the story: the storming of the Capitol nearly two years ago, Donald J. Trump’s attempt to “stop the steal,” the legal mess that ensued. But our institutions held. And Vice President Mike Pence followed through with his Constitutional duty, and certified the Biden victory in 2020. The former VP joins us on the podcast today to speak about what happened that day, and the difficulty of navigating an unconstitutional and disqualifying end to four years of solid conservative policy. He reminds us that America must honor its commitments to its people, and that in foreign policy, simply, America stands for freedom.
Mike Pence was the 48th Vice President of the United States. He has a new memoir out, So Help Me God. He was the 50th governor of Indiana, and served for 12 years in the U.S. House of Representatives.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute. |
| 0:03.0 | If you like what you hear, please subscribe, rate, review, and share. Thanks for listening. Here's our show. What the hell's going on? What the hell is going on? What the hell is going on? I don't know what the hell he's talking about. You don't have to know what the hell is on it. What hell's the matter with these guys? We don't know what's going on. What hell's going on? |
| 0:01.1 | Who in God's name knows what it's all about. |
| 0:34.8 | Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. |
| 0:36.7 | And I'm Mark Dyson. |
| 0:37.5 | Welcome to our podcast. What the hell is going on? Mark? Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. And I'm Mark Tiesin. |
| 0:45.7 | Welcome to our podcast. What the hell is going on? Mark, you had to carry the ball by yourself this week. What the hell went on? |
| 0:53.1 | Well, I had Vice President Mike Pence into the studio to talk to us about January 6th, about his new book. |
| 0:55.5 | So Helping God, which just came out. He was at AEI to give a talk and came down to the studio to share some thoughts with us. Timing was |
| 1:00.8 | fortuitous because just this week, a few days after our interview, the House January 6th committee |
| 1:05.8 | sent referrals to the Justice Department suggesting criminal charges against former President Trump. And we spent |
| 1:12.8 | some time talking to Vice President Pence about January 6th, about that day, about Trump's handling |
| 1:17.9 | of that day, and also his thoughts on a lot of things about Ukraine and Taiwan and all the rest of it. |
| 1:23.9 | So it was a great conversation. So one of the things that is very interesting |
| 1:28.4 | to me is that Mike Pence is a very phlegmatic guy. You know, he's very religious, he's very |
| 1:35.1 | upright, but he's not exactly a drama queen. And yet over the last six months or so that he |
| 1:43.0 | has been promoting the book that he wrote, |
| 1:45.6 | so help me God, he has been, I would say, vehement, but he's also described his emotions |
| 1:52.3 | on that day of January 6th and been very clear that he is just so angry. |
| 2:00.1 | You know, that is interesting to me because I'm surprised it |
| 2:04.2 | took him that long to get to a place of anger with Donald Trump. Well, here's the thing that he does, |
| 2:09.5 | which is, you know, one of the things he points out to me is that this book is the most fulsome defense |
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