WTH Happens After the Israel-Hamas War? Elliott Abrams Explains

What the Hell Is Going On

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🗓️ 21 December 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Nearly three months into the Israel-Hamas war, we’re back with Elliott Abrams for an update on what the hell is going on, and more importantly, where to go from here. The military objectives – what Israel must do in order to secure its people – are one level, but as the conflict continues, there are deeper issues that will take time and clarity to address. How do we deradicalize both the Palestinian population in support of Hamas? What about Hezbollah? Iran? And how can we help Israeli security when we are struggling Hamas supporters here at home? Why is the United States so loath to defend itself in the Red Sea? And why are there hundreds – hundreds—of Biden administration employees virtue-signaling their personal disagreement with the policy of the President of the United States?

Elliott Abrams is a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in Washington, DC. He served as deputy assistant to the president and deputy national security advisor in the administration of President George W. Bush, where he supervised U.S. policy in the Middle East for the White House, and as Special Representative for Iran and Venezuela in the administration of Donald Trump.

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0:00.0	This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute.
0:03.1	If you like what you hear, please subscribe, rate, review, and share. Thanks for listening. Here's our show. What the hell's going on? What the hell is going on? What the hell is going on? I don't know what the hell he's talking about. You don't have to know what the hell is on it. What hell's the matter with these guys? We don't know what's going on. What hell's going on?
0:01.1	Who in God's name
0:21.8	knows what it's all about. Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. I'm Martisan. Welcome to our podcast. What the
0:34.2	hell is going on? God, the aptest name ever. Mark, what the hell is going on? Well, what the hell is going on? God, the aptest name ever. Mark, what the hell is going on? Well,
0:41.2	what the hell is going on? First of all, it's the holiday season. So, Merry Christmas and Happy
0:45.2	Hanukkah or whatever you celebrate. We wish you all the best. Danny's off in Australia,
0:50.1	if you've noticed a little Aussie twinge in her accent during the pod. So she's joining us from the land down under, and I'm here in D.C. We're going to take some time off for the holidays, so there won't be a new pod for the next two weeks. But we're going to re-up. We just a preview our pod on, you know, we just had this Colorado case, where this Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that Donald Trump may not be on the ballot because he's an insurrectionist. And we had a great pod that just laid out why this is just insanity. We're going to re-up that one next week for you. Perfect timing. And it's one of the best discussions of that topic I've heard so far. So we wish you all the best for the next two weeks and we'll be back with you in early January. But we've gotten one more pod before we could break for a break for the holidays.
1:31.9	And so today we're talking a little bit about what next in the war between Israel and Hamas.
1:37.2	We're talking a little bit more about what the future of the Palestinians might look like.
1:43.7	We're asking all the hard questions. We're
1:45.4	talking about why the Biden administration won't do more about the Houthis and the attacks on
1:50.2	shipping and the attacks on American troops in Iraq and Syria and elsewhere. So we've got all
1:55.5	the sort of hard questions and some kind of gross answers that depressed me a little bit.
2:01.4	Yeah, we came to the conclusion that there are four levels of de-radicalization that we have to go through.
2:06.3	We have to de-radicalize the Palestinian population.
2:09.0	We have to de-radicalize the American population.
2:11.7	We have to de-radicalize the Democratic Party.
2:14.6	And apparently we have to de-radicalize the State Department because we have
2:17.5	problems at all four fronts.
2:19.6	It really, you know, something, it's unbelievable.
2:22.2	You know, I mean, a lot of our listeners are not in D.C., but guys, you probably have heard
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