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What the Hell Is Going On

WTH Extra! Two Years Since October 7. Dany and Marc Discuss.

What the Hell Is Going On

AEI Podcasts

History, Government, News, Politics

4.4633 Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Two years ago today, Hamas perpetrated the worst massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust. In this episode of WTH Extra! Dany and Marc discuss Dany’s article in the WTH Substack, Two years after October 7, there is no path to peace. Following October 7, 2023, the ideological defeat of Hamas has remained paramount to the survival of Israel. Hamas’s goal remains the same: the complete destruction of the Jewish State. Dany reminds us that what Western leaders fail to understand is that this fight has never been about land; and for as long as the “Palestinian” idea is built upon the destruction of the Jewish state, there will be no peace. A “yes, but” agreement from Hamas changes nothing. So, what’s next? Is the answer a “de-Hamasifaction” like that of post-World War II Germany? And could it extend to both Gaza and the West?

Read Dany's article in the WTH Substack here.

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0:00.0

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0:03.1

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0:07.1

Thanks for listening. Here's our show.

0:08.7

What the hell is going on?

0:10.5

What's really going on?

0:12.0

We said, what the hell happened?

0:13.5

You don't have to know what the hell is on it.

0:15.6

They see what's going on.

0:16.7

I don't know what's going on.

0:18.0

What is going on?

0:20.0

We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on.

0:30.9

Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka.

0:32.5

I'm Mark Tiesin.

0:33.6

Welcome to our podcast.

0:35.0

What the hell is going on?

0:37.0

Mark, what the hell is extra this week? What the hell is going on? Mark, what the hell is extra this week?

0:39.2

What the hell is going on, Danny, is you wrote a brilliant piece.

0:43.3

It had to happen. Which made everybody in our followers say, what the hell is going on?

0:48.6

Exactly. Well, no, no, no. It was one of your many brilliant pieces. But we're talking, and we're recording this on Monday evening before the anniversary of October 7th. And we're in the midst of these negotiations between Hamas and Israel and in Egypt and the United States to end the war in Gaza and to return the hostages. And Trump has

1:12.9

laid out a plan to do that. And so we're in the midst of all that. And you wrote a kind of a

1:19.3

skeptical piece about where this is all going, why the fundamentals are not there for a lasting

1:26.2

peace. But right now, I think everybody's just holding

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