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What the Hell Is Going On

WTH Do Democrats Really Oppose Deportations? Howard Husock Explains.

What the Hell Is Going On

AEI Podcasts

News, Politics, History, Government

4.4633 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

With the 2030 Census fast approaching, battles over redistricting and congressional apportionment continue to take shape. As population shifts continue, driven by migration from blue states to red states and the influx of illegal immigrants into sanctuary cities, both parties are looking to secure a larger share of political representation in the decade ahead. At the center of the debate is the Democratic Party’s reliance on a strict, constructivist reading of Article I’s “Free Persons Clause” to justify counting illegal immigrants in reapportionment and redistricting. Critics argue that the lack of legal basis hinder our ability to police the practice and contend that the voting power of American citizens are effectively diluted. Howard proposes an alternative approach: a citizenship initiative focused on those here legally and eligible to naturalize, rather than creating what he describes as modern-day “rotten boroughs”, districts with inflated populations but disproportionate influence in federal elections. Would the Democratic Party support such an effort? Or will they continue to double down on their outrageously unpopular embrace of high illegal immigration?

Howard Husock is a senior fellow in Domestic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where he focuses on municipal government, urban housing policy, civil society, and philanthropy. Before joining AEI, Mr. Husock was vice president for research and publications at the Manhattan Institute. He has also been a director of case studies in public policy and management at the Harvard Kennedy School, a member of the board of directors of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and a journalist and Emmy-winning documentary filmmaker.

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0:07.1

Thanks for listening. Here's our show.

0:08.7

What the hell is going on?

0:10.5

What's really going on?

0:12.0

We said, what the hell happened?

0:13.5

You don't have to know what the hell is on it.

0:15.6

They see what's going on.

0:16.7

I don't know what's going on.

0:18.0

What is going on?

0:20.0

We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on.

0:29.6

Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka.

0:31.5

And I'm Mark Tesson.

0:32.8

Welcome to our podcast.

0:34.8

What the hell is going on?

0:37.0

Mark, what the hell is going on? And where the hell are

0:39.6

you? I am in Tierra del Fuego. I'm at the very end of the earth. I'm in Ushuaya, Argentina,

0:48.0

which is, you know, as I was just saying to you before, a spitting distance from Antarctica.

0:51.6

I'm down here on a little vacation, checking out the mountains and

0:56.7

hiking and doing all sorts of fun stuff. It looks amazing. It really does. I can't wait to see

1:02.4

all the rest of the pictures. And what are we talking about today all the way from Tierra del Fuego?

1:07.4

We are talking about illegal immigration and the 2030 census.

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