WTH Can’t Putin Afford to Fail in Ukraine? Michael Tory Explains How He Will.
What the Hell Is Going On
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🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 50 minutes
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With regime change brewing in Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran, and the Russian war of attrition still marching on, Cold War déjà vu shapes our understanding of what happens when regimes do fall and offers a hopeful conclusion. Former Soviet states that have joined the EU have experienced an average tenfold increase in GDP since 1990, while Russia and its non-EU neighbors have grown only fourfold. Like the stark contrast of the Berlin Wall, if Ukraine is free to continue to prosper economically, people in Russia’s border regions will begin to work out that the problem isn’t NATO, the problem isn’t ideology, the problem is the failure of the system in Russia to deliver. And in addition to the huge costs of the war already waged, that’s something Putin cannot afford. So, will Putin try to wait it out? What choices does he have to avoid failure? We asked an investment banker for his theory and the numbers are enlightening…
Michael Tory is a co-founder and Chairman of the financial advisory firm Ondra Partners. Tory is also an outspoken advocate for and supports several NGO efforts in Ukraine. Previously, he served as head of UK investment banking for Lehman Brothers Inc. and has been a Senior UK investment banker of Lehman Brothers Holdings. Michael previously served as Morgan Stanley’s head of investment banking in the UK and worked in their New York office for over a decade. Tory is also principal of Turning the Page, which develops and publishes ideas for rebuilding the UK’s domestic capital markets and savings systems.
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| 0:07.1 | Thanks for listening. Here's our show. |
| 0:08.7 | What the hell is going on? |
| 0:10.5 | What's really going on? |
| 0:12.0 | We said, what the hell happened? |
| 0:13.5 | You don't have to know what the hell is on it. |
| 0:15.6 | They see what's going on. |
| 0:16.7 | I don't know what's going on. |
| 0:18.0 | What is going on? |
| 0:20.0 | We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on. |
| 0:30.4 | Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. |
| 0:32.4 | I'm Mark Tiesin. |
| 0:33.6 | Welcome to our podcast. |
| 0:35.2 | What the hell is going on, Mark? What the hell is going on? Mark? |
| 0:37.8 | What the hell is going on is President Trump is trying yet again to get a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. |
| 0:44.4 | And Ukraine has basically said yes. President Zelensky has said that they met in Davos and that he's met with the U.S. team. |
| 0:51.8 | And they basically have a deal that he's ready to sign off on, |
| 0:55.1 | and Putin is obviously dragging his feet. And he's been dragging his feet. He's been the |
| 0:59.9 | obstacle to peace from the very beginning, right? You know, he's the one in the Ukraine, when |
| 1:04.2 | the start of the Trump administration, Trump wanted a ceasefire to negotiate a peace deal. |
| 1:09.1 | Ukraine said yes, Putin said no. Everything that, |
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