WTH? A European Supreme Allied Commander of NATO? Kori Schake Explains
What the Hell Is Going On
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🗓️ 27 March 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
President Trump is reportedly considering abandoning America’s longstanding role commanding NATO forces as Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), changing the U.S. combatant command structure, and canceling modernization plans for U.S. Forces Japan. While it’s true that Europe needs to step up to the plate on its own defense needs, abandoning the SACEUR position would place U.S. troops under foreign command, give Washington less leverage over our allies, and weaken deterrence. How can Trump better advance his goal of boosting European defense spending? And where can the Defense Department make cuts that bolster deterrence?
Kori Schake is a senior fellow and the director of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. Before joining AEI, Kori was the deputy director-general of the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London; a professor at West Point, University of Maryland, and Johns Hopkins University; and worked in the State Department, National Security Council, and Department of Defense. She is the author of Safe Passage: The Transition from British to American Hegemony, and a contributing writer at the Atlantic, War on the Rocks, and Bloomberg. Her upcoming book is The State and the Soldier: The History of Civil Military Relations in America.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by the American Enterprise Institute. |
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| 0:07.0 | Thanks for listening. Here's our show. |
| 0:08.7 | What the hell is going on? |
| 0:10.4 | What's really going on? |
| 0:12.0 | We said, what the hell happened? |
| 0:13.5 | You don't have to know what the hell is on it. |
| 0:15.6 | They see what's going on. |
| 0:16.7 | I don't know what's going on. |
| 0:18.2 | What is going on? |
| 0:19.6 | We must find out what's going on. What is going on? We must find out what is going on. |
| 0:28.8 | Hi, I'm Danielle Pletka. |
| 0:30.5 | And I'm Mark Tiesin. |
| 0:31.6 | Welcome to our podcast. |
| 0:33.4 | What the hell is going on this week? |
| 0:35.7 | Well, what the hell is going on is there are rumors going around, no policy decisions, |
| 0:40.9 | but rumors going around, that the Trump administration may give up the position of Supreme |
| 0:47.7 | Allied Commander Europe, SACYur, which is such a cool title, position that has been held |
| 0:53.8 | by the United States since the end of |
| 0:57.0 | World War II and the founding of NATO and allow a European general to assume that position. |
| 1:03.1 | That, you know, that's worrisome to me in a number of levels. |
| 1:06.7 | Because I, first of all, I just look at the MAGA movement, which is America first. |
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