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How did that come about, Steven, real quick?

How did you go from being a management starting that and actually getting that contract with the NSA and the CIA?

I know.

I know it was a little bit backwards the way he said because I got the contract with them first.

And then I started the laser company.

I mean, I've always had a company.

I was a jeweler.

I was 11.

I was 15, 16 years old.

I had a company i was always you know doing something

hustling something but when the uh what was i was working for my brother back in uh 79 or eight or

whatever the heck yeah it's a newer mic yeah hope it works better anyway and and that's when I got messing around with the whole around Iraq war nonsense.

And then eventually that turned into the next time they came around.

And the, I thought it was the CIA again.

It turned out to be the NSA.

And that was when they wanted me to because we had just come up with some driver electronics to power the new laser diodes.

They had just come out of Japan.

They just invented this solid state laser technology.

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