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Today, our interview is with a guy who was a never-Mormon, but has spent his life studying new religious movements.

And in the grand scheme of things, Mormonism is new.

As a religious study scholar, Joe Lecoq has a unique lens through which to see groups that some may describe

as cult, though they don't use that term in his field, to pick up patterns and just document

how humans use rituals to try to make sense of the chaos of the universe. He has written a number

of books about the occult Satanism and how it interplays into pop culture, including his new book, The Exorcist Effect.

Here is our interview with him.

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I'm so much And so you work in a lot of religious and horror, like, how religion equates to horror films right now.

Do you see any, like, current ones being played right now that you're like, oh, this is from the church, this is propaganda?

Yeah, well, I mean, we just learned that, you know, the Catholic Church paid money to get the book

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