WTF is happening with Ukraine?
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🗓️ 26 January 2022
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Tommy and Ben cover the latest news about a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine, a coup in Burkina Faso, fighting in Yemen and the UAE, why the clock is ticking for the Iran deal, a new cabinet in Chile, New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern cancels her wedding, news about Havana syndrome, more trouble for party enthusiast and British PM Boris Johnson, buying the bitcoin dip in El Salvador, and Mike Pompeo seeks help. Then Tommy talks with Peter Beinart about the history of NATO expansion and how it may have made Putin more aggressive.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Potsay of the World. I'm Ben Rhodes. I'm Tommy Vittor. We're switching. |
| 0:16.3 | It's lagging. Ben, I just wrote down football banter. Some of the best games I've ever seen |
| 0:22.5 | in my life. I don't even really know what to say. All I want to say is I want to send love |
| 0:28.4 | to our listeners and Buffalo to all fans of the Buffalo Bills. Harp breaking loss. Your 25-year-old |
| 0:35.6 | quarterback played a perfect game and lost your defense. Tough done the end. But here's Pat |
| 0:41.1 | Holmes incredible. I don't feel that bad because they have Josh Allen for a decade. You have |
| 0:44.8 | a my Jets Tosh Allen for Decker. Sam Darnow before Josh Allen draft. So I thought about that this |
| 0:51.0 | week. Listen, I know non-sports fans just endorse. One of the most fun things in sports is when |
| 0:56.4 | there's a draft. Some fan base knows the player they took ahead of all the really good ones. |
| 1:04.1 | The most famous one is Michael Jordan. Not going first overall, but it's the best. It's just like |
| 1:08.5 | the deepest. We never get over it. We'll never get over it. We'll Ben, today's show is |
| 1:13.3 | more action packed than an NFL divisional round game. Oh, it's a transition I wrote. We're |
| 1:17.4 | going to spend a bunch of time talking about Russian Ukraine, including with our guest today, |
| 1:20.8 | Peter Bynart, who wrote a fascinating piece about how NATO expansion may or may not be |
| 1:26.4 | a factor in Putin's aggression towards Ukraine. But even more interestingly, how the topic itself |
| 1:32.6 | of NATO expansion went from controversial to just kind of like unquestioned. And this is why |
| 1:37.6 | Peter so much because he is someone who is like, hand up. I made a huge mistake supporting the |
| 1:43.5 | Iraq war. And from now on, I will question every assumption and question all my mistakes. |
| 1:48.9 | And he does that here and sort of like takes on these sacred cows. You should check out his |
| 1:53.7 | Bynart notebook on Substak, excellent. I've been in the exclusive content. Get out of here. |
| 1:59.3 | Bynart Substak, yes. Well, literally we booked him on the show because he wrote such a great |
| 2:04.0 | piece on Monday. So it's definitely worth subscribing. Also, we are going to talk about the Kuh |
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