WTF Can We Do About Deadly Wildfires?

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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From the tragedy in Hawaii — which has left at least 115 dead, and over a thousand more missing, making it the deadliest blaze in the last century of US history — to recent fires in Canada, California, Indonesia and Brazil, the world seems to be engulfed in a megafire crisis fueled by climate change. We bring on a panel of practitioners to discuss what’s behind these megafires, and how we can work to mitigate the crisis. Matt Weiner is the CEO of the nonprofit Megafire Action, with a background in policymaking; Lenya Quinn-Davidson is Director of University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources Fire Network; and Chad Hanson is the Director of the John Muir Project of Earth Island Institute, a research and advocacy organization focused on federal public forestlands. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everyone from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is the Donald
0:17.1	Trump mug shot, otherwise known as Blue Steel, and I mean stolen, not steel. Just kidding,
0:22.7	this is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher.
0:25.2	And I'm named Maraza as someone who has perfected the Zoolander Blue Steel. I think Trump needs
0:30.2	a little more pout, a little less cowl.
0:32.2	You know, I realized it was actually Vigo, the Carpathian from Ghostbusters 2. If you look
0:37.5	at it, I put a comparative thing and it's almost exactly the same. Everyone on social media
0:43.4	took a different thing, people that are for him. I think he looks presidential, people
0:47.6	who are against him think he looks ridiculous and menacing slash weird and odd and just
0:55.4	performative anyway.
0:56.4	But it was his first tweet back, his first ex back. Is it called a tweet still?
1:00.4	No, I don't, I'm going to call it a tweet. It's fine. And it's of course the first thing
1:04.5	he posts because he wants to fundraise. And of course Elon boosted it, etc. As he likes
1:10.3	to boost his friend stuff. You know, he's been very active on that platform. He did the
1:15.0	Tucker Carlson interview that was kind of a flop. I mean, did you watch it? No, I don't
1:21.0	think it was, I don't think it was particularly relevant. I hadn't heard him speak at that
1:25.2	length for that amount of time in a while. And I forgot how masterful he is at the art
1:30.4	of double speak, you know, leaving plausibility for the conspiracy, but he's not supporting
1:34.4	the conspiracy, but it's possible. But it's not sure. And, you know, I don't want to weigh
1:38.2	in, but I'm waiting in. And it was just, it was like, it was a bit of a mind fuck or
1:44.4	return to a hostage situation. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It was interesting. Even Ben Shapiro
1:48.4	was saying it was soft. So that you know, that's really, he's right. He's actually his criticism
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