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Wall Street Breakfast

WSB's Weekend Bite Week Ending April 29: Recession Warnings

Wall Street Breakfast

Seeking Alpha

Business, Investing, Business News, News

3.8950 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

This week we discuss recession warnings, what this earnings season means for the market, and macro implications from Russia's continued invasion of Ukraine. With Eric Basmajian from EPB Macro Research, and Richard Hunter, Head of Markets at Interactive Investor.

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0:00.0

Hey, welcome to the Weekend Bite presented by the Wall Street Breakfast.

0:03.8

I'm Daniel Snyder, and thanks for tuning in this week.

0:06.9

So earnings are strong.

0:08.9

Where are they?

0:10.3

The market year to date returns are currently negative 11.8% on the S&P 500 down 8% on the Dow down 16.2% for the Russell and down a 20% on the NASDAQ.

0:25.0

And we found out this week that the US first quarter economy

0:29.0

has shrunk at a 1.4% annual rate, which is why this show is hopefully going to give you some insight as to where we go from here. So let's go ahead and bring in our first guest joining us today. The true audience favorite Eric Bazmatian from EPV macro research a service found here on seeking

0:47.0

Alpha Marketplace. Eric it's always great to have you join us. Now you've been on a few times

0:52.4

reiterating to our audience that the economic growth rate has slowed down pretty dramatically. It feels like we've been talking about this for months, right? So let's start there. Is that still what you are seeing?

1:02.9

And is this slowdown in growth leading you

1:05.5

to believe that a recession is coming in the future?

1:08.8

Yeah, thanks Daniel.

1:10.9

So I was on over the last couple of months outlining the case for growth to slow much more than consensus was expecting and the reason for that was primarily because of a significant deterioration in real income.

1:25.0

And I brought a chart of that which shows the growth rate of real income falling

1:31.0

extremely significantly since the spring of last year.

1:34.8

So since March or April of 2021,

1:39.3

real income was growing at about a 5% annualized rate that slowed pretty dramatically cut right through

1:45.8

what the historical or longer run trend has been to about 1.1%. Now we're going to get this number updated on Friday, so maybe by the time people are watching, the

1:56.9

March number will be updated. The projection is that this real income number is going to slow pretty close to 0% Daniel and historically when real income is negative it's very difficult for the economy to expand at all. And the reason for that is because the economy runs on unit volumes and this cycle has been very difficult for investors and

2:22.1

an analyst because of how high the inflation rate is and the gap between

2:26.7

nominal growth and real growth. So a lot of investors are used to measuring growth nominal or real and sort of looking at it

2:35.4

interchangeably because inflation was always kind of one and a half 2% and there was really no

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