You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds.

What comes to the podcast?

It's not an emergency podcast, but it's an unexpected one because it's 25 years since

the Principality Stadium opens its doors.

Yesterday the Foo Fighters played here, which is an indication of the diversification

of this grand, not old, but this grand building but today the Bartero Union has published its brand new

strategy to take the game forward up until 2029. Garth 3 so in here and alongside me is Scrum 5's rugby

writer not Garth Griffiths because he's packing his bags to go to Australia.

It's actually Matt Lloyd, how are you Matt?

Yeah, good. It's one of those these days again, isn't it? Just to give you context, we've been given the

document, which is quite broad.

There's not much detail in this document,

but we've also had an hour's conversation

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