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Honestly with Bari Weiss

Wrongthink on Race With Glenn C. Loury

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

Society & Culture, News

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2021

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Four decades ago, Glenn C. Loury became the first tenured black professor of economics in Harvard’s history. Ever since then, he has made waves for his willingness to buck the elite intellectual establishment; for his iconoclastic ideas about race and inequality; and for his incisive cultural criticism.  He is a man of seeming contradictions: he rails against the divisiveness of woke politics from his post at Brown University, one of America’s most left wing campuses. He worries about what the death of God means for the country -- though he calls his own past religious beliefs a “benevolent self-delusion.” In the 80s, Glenn challenged his fellow black Americans to combat the “enemy from within,” while he himself battled demons like adultery and addiction.  But Glenn’s ability to re-examine his positions and look at his own past with clear eyes is hardly a fault. Glenn is a man who, in a time of lies told for the sake of political convenience, strives to tell the truth even when the truth is hard. Or complicated. Or an affront to our feelings. Or contradicts what we wish were true.     In today’s conversation: race, racism, Black Lives Matter, school choice, standardized tests, crack, sexual infidelity, Christianity, the Nation of Islam, neoconservatism, Harvard, groupthink, and pretty much every other hot-button subject you can imagine. Plus, Glenn’s own remarkable life story.  Glenn's own podcast, "The Glenn Show" is available through Substack and in video form on his new Youtube channel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Barry Weiss and this is honestly.

0:36.0

Everybody's got to figure out how to make a life out of the raw material that they're given,

0:42.0

which is their sexual orientation and it is their

0:44.4

ethnic and racial and national heritage. It is the culture. Everybody comes with a

0:49.1

mother tongue and so forth. We are given these things. Those are the initial facts about ourselves.

0:55.2

They are not alive. And today, Glenn Lowry. They're just the wrong material.

1:00.8

We still have to make a script for our lives. We still have to

1:03.6

fashion a vision for ourselves. We still have to be in the world. That's a

1:07.4

challenge that everybody faces and the reason that I can read, oh I don't know,

1:11.4

the great Russian novelist of the 19th century, the

1:14.3

Dostoyevsky is in the Tolstoyes. The reason I can read them and be enriched by them

1:18.5

is not because I see my life in their narrative, but it's because their narrative is in the

1:24.5

service of this existential challenge that all of us face, which is how to grow out

1:29.9

of where we start into the fullness of our humanity. That's what the university is there for.

1:37.6

George Orwell said a lot of things so brilliant and so true and so plainly that by now they become cliche.

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