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The Daily

Wrongfully Accused by an Algorithm

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4 • 102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Facial recognition is becoming an increasingly central component of police departments’ efforts to solve crimes. But can algorithms harbor racial bias? Guest: Annie Brown, a producer for The New York Times, speaks with Kashmir Hill, a technology reporter, about her interview with Robert Julian-Borchak Williams, who was arrested after being misidentified as a criminal by an algorithm. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Background reading: In response to Mr. Williams’s story being published by The New York Times, the Wayne County prosecutor’s office said that he could have the case and his fingerprint data expunged.

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From New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow.

0:32.6

This is The Daily.

0:40.6

Today, facial recognition is becoming an increasingly popular tool for solving crimes.

0:49.0

The Daily's Annie Brown speaks to Kashmir Hill about how that software is not treating

0:56.2

everybody equally.

1:03.0

It's Monday, August 3rd.

1:06.0

And then I'm just going to tape record with the map that I used.

1:14.2

Do you guys have any questions or concerns before we start talking about what happened?

1:18.8

Okay.

1:19.8

Okay.

1:20.8

Okay.

1:21.8

So where do you think we should start the story of this case, Kashmir?

1:25.7

The story started for the Williams family in January of 2020.

1:30.8

It was a good call first.

1:31.8

I got the call first.

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