And I think that a lot of what comforting people is is both of those things that you're listening to them enough to make them feel heard enough to have like a certain validation around that pain or discomfort that they're feeling but also to just zoom out and say this is not as big of a deal as you think it is.

What is up you sexy bastards? It is your boy green grapes, aka

rabbi can't lose, aka Noo Kagan.

Today's episode I talked to David Perrell.

David is a writer, educator, Amy's really good at golf,

but he's also the founder of Right of Passage.

It's an online writing school.

You can learn more about that at write ofpatious.

school or Parel.com. Now David is the next generation of entrepreneurs so

as a dinosaur now that I'm 40 it's so old in internet years I wanted to be around

these people to figure out what the hell the new kids are doing on Twitter, online businesses, and beyond.

So we talk about that and other things in this episode.

Here's three gigantic things you're going to take away.

One, how did they realize he can actually make money teaching people how to write online.

Two, the triangular nature of desire and three, helpful strategies for accompanying people

when they're having a tough time.

Enjoy those three things plus a bunch more ear nuggets along the way.

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