Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC

History Revealed.

Series 5 of the Netflix drama The Crown has been causing quite a stir in recent weeks. A raft of historians and commentators

have been debating whether its depiction of the royal family is accurate or not, and whether

accuracy even matters. But might some of the challenges of representing recent royal history

actually originate with the palace itself. To find out more,

Matt Elton spoke to Philip Murphy, Professor of British and Commonwealth History at the Institute

of Historical Research, University of London. So, Philip, you joined us today to talk about some of the

difficulties and the joys, I suppose, of researching the more recent history of the British monarchy. I wanted to start by talking to you about why it's interesting and why you think it's relevant to research this particular aspect of history.

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