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Wonder Cabinet

Writing the Climate Change Story

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

One of the toughest things about trying to understand climate change – arguably the most important story of our time — is wrapping our minds around it. To even imagine something so enormous, so life-changing, we need a story. Some characters, a metaphor, and even some lessons learned. For that, we turn to the novelists and journalists telling the story of climate change – as we – and our children – live it.

Original Air Date: August 14, 2021

Interviews In This Hour:
The Climate Change Stories We Need To HearThe Climate Crisis Gets BiblicalLidia Yuknavitch’s Dream World: How Dreams Shaped Her Dazzling Speculative Novel A Climate Dystopia Of Cold, Concrete, Wind and a Wall

Guests:
Alice Bell, Lydia Millet, Lidia Yuknavitch, John Lanchester


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0:00.0

It's to the best of our knowledge.

0:02.0

I'm Anne Strain Champs.

0:03.0

One of the toughest things about trying to understand climate change is wrapping our minds around it.

0:12.0

And to even imagine something so enormous, so life-changing, we need a story.

0:20.0

And that's why in this hour, we turn to the novelists and

0:23.4

journalists who are telling the story of climate change, while we and our children live it.

0:30.3

That's one of the powerful things about novels is that it can suspend the unimaginable and

0:36.6

play it out without killing anyone.

0:40.3

I was trying to figure out, you know, why this dream came,

0:43.3

why dream turned into a book.

0:45.6

And actually, in a funny way, I think it's exactly because it's too difficult to think about.

0:49.9

It sort of forced its way through my unconscious instead.

0:54.1

This hour, writing the climate change story.

1:00.5

It's to the best of our knowledge, I'm Anne Strange Champs.

1:03.8

The Earth's climate has changed in ways that can't be put back.

1:08.2

And now we're looking at a future that is beyond most people's capacity

1:11.4

even to imagine. So how do we come to terms with the unthinkable?

1:21.3

In part, through fiction.

1:26.5

Writer Alice Bell kicks off today's show with a true story

1:30.0

of how just one summer of bad weather

1:32.6

changed the course of British literature.

1:43.1

There's the summer of 1816.

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