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Writing on the Wall

Sidedoor

Smithsonian Institution

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4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

From the time we’re old enough to hold a crayon, it feels instinctive to draw on the wall. But for MISS CHELOVE – also known as Cita Sadeli – this instinct became a calling. Through bold color and layered symbolism, she transforms everyday public spaces into deeply personal statements, inspiring some passers-by to wonder: what is the role of the public artist? And how can public art both reflect and shape a community's identity?

Guests:

MISS CHELOVE (also known as Cita Sadeli), independent Washington D.C. - based art director, muralist, designer, and illustrator
Sojin Kim, curator for the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center’s exhibition: Sightlines, Chinatown and Beyond

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Side Door, a podcast from the Smithsonian with support from PRX.

0:13.7

I'm Lizzie Peabody.

0:27.4

Living in a city like D.C., I ride my bike a lot.

0:33.4

It's how I get to work, meet up with friends, get groceries, and so I often find myself riding through Thomas Circle.

0:36.2

It's one of the many roundabouts originally laid out to confuse invading armies who might try to march through the nation's capital.

0:43.3

And every time I ride around it, I pass by two women.

0:47.3

Okay, so it's evening time. I'm biking through.

0:51.3

Always there. Always the same.

0:55.0

There's a woman facing to the right, a woman facing to the left.

1:00.0

They stand back to back.

1:01.9

They look serious, determined.

1:06.1

And I'm not the only one they're watching over.

1:08.7

I asked a few people walking by what they noticed.

1:11.2

Yeah, both have got spears. Like, what I see, I see a Native American via traditional

1:16.3

native attire. Because you even see the jewelry on her arm and the earrings and stuff.

1:21.3

It makes me sort of think of like women warriors. And the right does look like some kind of Egyptian warrior,

1:28.3

because look at the attire on the chest.

1:30.3

It's like a shield of some sort.

1:32.3

It's beautiful.

1:33.3

I love the colors.

1:35.3

That woman on the left is definitely stressed about something.

1:37.3

Look at the gray in the hair.

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