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You are now listening to True Murder, the most shocking killers in True Crime

History, and the authors that have written about them. Gacy, Bundy,

Domer, the Night Stalker, D.T.K. Every week, another fascinating author,

talking about the most shocking and infamous killers in True Crime History.

True Murder, with your host, journalist and author Dan Zufansky.

Good evening. In 2016-2017, while working for the USA Today Network's

Wisconsin investigative team, author John Ferric wrote dozens of articles examining

the murder case against Stephen Avery, who had already beat one wrongful conviction

only to be charged with the murder of Theresa Hall back in 2005. The case became the wildly

successful Netflix making a murderer documentary. In Reckon Crew, demolishing the case against

Stephen Avery, Ferric lays out in exacting detail the post-conviction strategy of Kathleen Zelner,

the high-profile, high-octane lawyer, to Free Avery. To write this book, perhaps America's

most successful wrongful conviction attorney, Gacy Ferric unique access to the exhaustive

pro bono effort she and her small, suburban Chicago law firm dedicated for a man she believes

to be a victim of an unscrupulous justice system in Manitawak County. The book to be

featuring this evening is Reckon Crew, demolishing the case against Stephen Avery, with my special

journalist and author John Ferric. Welcome back to the program and thank you very much for agreeing

to this interview. John Ferric. Thanks for having me on again, Dan. Thank you very much, John, for

this incredible congratulations on this book. You've got yourself involved with one of the most

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