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I was actually going to start Pat with a twins question, but screw the twins. Let's start with this

here. We'll get to the twins at some point here. They just got swept. Jerry Kill, I'm reading this summation from Bring Me the News, but Randy Shaver was talking with Jerry Kill. And still, you know, five years later, he has made it very clear that he's not a fan of PJ Fleck, and he is unsure if you will shake PJ Flex's hand at the end of the game next week.

Your thoughts?

I believe he told Charlie Walters the same thing two weeks ago.

So I talked to him on Tuesday and basically wrote about how'd you end up in New Mexico State?

I did not do.

We didn't dabble into the Fleckfewed just because that was my having seen shooters thing two weeks ago, which pretty well covered that thing.

I didn't think I didn't really give a

damn. And, you know, a lot of things Jerry says about kill, about, uh, like probably offend

other people more than they do me. So that's, that's, uh, but yeah, he's, uh, well, you know,

my theory is.

You ask the guy a question?

Honest answers are what we look for, right?

He is.

We actually, we've spent the last 25 minutes before we got you on here as we were working with Judd's internet issues.

So Declan and I had some time to kill.

So we've just been scouring the internet and our internal systems.

We found a 40 plus minute interview from the Mackie and Judd radio show five, five and a half years ago.

Doogie had booked Jerry Kill to come in for a scoop session on the phone.

And I'm just going through some of the quotes we put out on Twitter.

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