Hey, money rehabbers. Before we get started, I just wanted to let you know that today's episode

includes a description of suicidal thoughts. So please take care while listening.

I'm Nicole Lapin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand.

It's time for some money rehab.

So I was reading The L.A. Times not too long ago and I stumbled across an article titled

After Being Dumped, Can a $4,000 break up bootcamp help you heal? I was hooked. My first thought was

damn $4,000 is a whole lot of money and that was my second thought and my third thought too. But I

was also so curious. Breakups and heartache and relationship woes can affect your mental health

which in turn can affect your financial health. So what's the price of good overall health in all

aspects? If it isn't $4,000, how much is it? So naturally, I wanted to find out more about this

bootcamp. So I invited the founder Amy Chan on to tell me more about it.

Welcome to Money Rehab. Thanks for having me. You are the founder and chief heart hacker.

Love that title at Renew Breakup Bootcamp. I cannot wait to dive into that more because we've

all experienced that. Your background is so interesting to me. You started in marketing and your

last job was at one of my favorite places in New York actually, the ping pong club spin. So how did

you pivot from ping pong to heartbreak? Yeah. So I was a chief marketing officer at spin and I had

always had this idea to create this retreat, a safe space for people to go after going through a

break up or divorce and the idea came after a pretty traumatic breakup of my own. I was on the path

of happy forever after which to me back then, that date get married and be a state homewife.

And I was set. And then that relationship fell apart due to infidelity. And without that,

I just fell into pieces. I didn't have an identity outside of the relationship and our future plans.

And I tried everything I could to heal. I went to yoga retreats, but I was just procrastinating

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