This is Need to Know.

Real talk about unidentified anomalous phenomena.

From Australia, Ross Colthard.

From the U.S. Bryce Zabel.

Hi, it's Rich Johnson, your usually faithful producer and engineer for need to know.

So Ross is on assignment for his real job.

He's on the road around the great country and continent of Australia.

Bryce is busy, but he's at home at stately Bryce Manor in the hilly regions of Los Angeles.

But he did pick up the phone a few days ago and had a conversation with a new friend of the podcast,

Frederick Dirks Gottlieb.

He's a screenwriter and producer in Denmark and hosts a show on DR, short for Danish radio,

also short for the multi-channel radio and public TV service in Denmark.

It's quite a long conversation. He's a fan. He's also a knowledgeable uphologist.

So let's listen in to Bryce and Frederick. Thanks to DR for letting us do this.

Hi, Bryce. Hey there. Welcome to Denmark. I love Denmark. I've been to Denmark

twice. I went in 2014 and 2019 right before the pandemic hit. Started in Sweden, I have to say.

Okay. I bought a Volvo car and drove it into Denmark. But I had a lovely country, and I've enjoyed my time there so very much each time.

I'm glad to hear that.

I'm glad to hear that.

And I must admit, I'm a pretty big fan.

Of course, I know dark skies very well, and all the projects you've been doing,

I must see that's the kind of career I would hope for myself to do so much different

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