This is Red Box, the Politics Podcast on The Times, I'm Matt Chorley, and a special hello to

Silas 2511 and D Lockwood who said nice things about us on iTunes and to Sunshine D who said less nice things

about us being increasingly sanctimonious and smug as if I care. On this

week's episode we've got politics, penguins and pills. Times columnist Alice Thompson wonders if we really

should get involved in trouble. Matthew Paris asks do we get the bang for our buck on mental health.

But first, after all the excitement of last week, the coup against Theresa May is off for now.

Times political editor Francis Elliot asks how the plotters got it so wrong.

The Brexit is sputtering coup shames a party that used to do disloyalties so well.

What's worse is that many leading levers were key figures in the defenestration of Ian Duncan Smith 15 years ago.

They really ought to know how to do it now they're on the other side.

We were always told the Tories they were ruthless they knew how to get there.

When things were bad they would get rid of a leader and it turns out they're rubbish.

Train killers everyone.

What's gone wrong? They are hopelessly divided over tactics,

over the succession and over their end destination for Brexit and in any case.

This has been a sort of crisis brewing over the last two years

within their own ranks obviously we've got an external enemy of Tradersemae was

slightly disguised but when they actually had to do something, which is act in a coordinated

fashion, you know, we can see that they are unable to coordinate.

I mean, the essential division is between those who think that now is time and those who realize

that if they trigger a vote she's likely to win a vote of no confidence and

therefore they would be safe from another vote of confidence for 12 months.

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