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Thank you. Sage Co-Pilot, your new AI productivity assistant. This is Hugo Rifkind, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day

and the stuff that's even more important than politics too.

And joining me are two of the finest minds from The Times and the Sunday Times,

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