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Practical Stoicism

Would The Ancient Stoics Have Been Against The Mistreatment Of Animals?

Practical Stoicism

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Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.8662 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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0:33.1

Hey there, Procaptan. Welcome back. This week, we're going to do something a little bit different because I made a mistake. I was in such a rush to get ahead of our production schedule by a month, which is really hard to do when you're doing four episodes a week, that I actually missed this week in that process. I don't know how I did that, ADHD brain,

0:55.1

that kind of thing just happens to me sometimes. So this week, I'm going to read our three

1:00.6

most popular substack articles. If you would like to subscribe to our substack, it is entirely free,

1:07.0

and you can do that by going to stoicismpod.substack.com or read.com. Again, totally free.

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1:20.4

started our substack about, I don't know, six months ago maybe. Something like that. Anyway,

1:26.4

the first is a new one, actually, and it's trending so quickly

1:29.9

that I thought it was worth sharing. It's one I've written, and it is entitled, Would the Ancient

1:34.2

Stoics Have Been Against the Mistreatment of Animals? A little bit of background on this article,

1:39.4

Massimo Pilucci, who is the, of course, the author of How to Be a Stoic, rather popular book within the

1:45.9

Stoicism community at large. He and I had this very friendly disagreement on whether or not

1:51.5

the ancient Stoics actually would have cared about or really did care about animal well-being.

1:57.9

Massimo says that they had no consideration or care for the well-being of animals,

2:02.5

as animals were not gifted with the ability to reason. And so they were seen as tools and

2:10.2

basically like gifts of nature to humans. I agree with some of what Massimo says there, and I'm paraphrasing pretty strongly,

2:20.8

but you'll get the gist of it in this article as I reference and quote what he actually said.

2:26.1

But there's a significant part of it that I disagree with, and it's actually a bit of a

2:30.1

nuanced part, but I hope that you find this article interesting, and if you do, please consider

2:34.0

again subscribing to our free substack by going to read.stoicismpod.com. I will start the article now.

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