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hello beautiful people. Welcome to God is Gray, the podcast. Although I as a Christian believe that God resides in absolute truth, in black and white, we as people are stuck here on planet Earth contending with the gray. In church, gray areas often cause dissension, anger,

and even hate. But on this platform, I welcome open dialogue, variety of opinion, and differing

belief systems. God is Gray is meant to teach, inform, and simply trade stories with kindness,

love, and mutual respect. If you have a story or perspective to share, please reach me, Brenda Marie Davies at

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Now, on to the episode.

Hi, beautiful people. Today we have author, activist, and minister the episode. Hi, beautiful people.

Today we have author, activist, and minister L. Dowd.

She wrote the book, Baptized in Tear Gas, which I read very quickly.

I ingested it.

It was so informative, but also beautiful and vulnerable, so so vulnerable. And today is definitely going to

have a lot of like triggering topics in it about police violence and the concepts of

defunding the police and activism and BLM. But I think it's so valuable if you can stomach it to stay for

this conversation because I think this will help give anyone who is interested basically a defense

of being able to defend this movement and to be a part of it as a Christian or non-Christian or anyone.

And then also just so you have a little bit of, or a lot of bit of information on how to

defend it to people that are naysayers or that don't want to get involved in what I see as a

beautiful, beautiful movement of God. So, hi, Elle. Hi, it's so good to be here. Yes, I'm so

excited to have you. We've got a lot to get into here. And if I ever ask a question that's too

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