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Would humans exist if dinosaurs were still alive?

CrowdScience

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Science

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2019

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

66 million years ago, a huge asteroid hit the earth, wiping out most of the dinosaurs that roamed the land. It would still be tens of millions of years before the first humans appeared - but what if those dinosaurs hadn’t died out? Would we ever have evolved?

CrowdScience listener Sunil was struck by this thought as he passed a Jurassic fossil site: if dinosaurs were still around, would I be here now? We dive back into the past to see how our distant mammal ancestors managed to live alongside huge, fierce dinosaurs; and why the disappearance of those dinosaurs was great news for mammals. They invaded the spaces left behind, biodiversity flourished, and that led – eventually – to humans evolving. It looks like our existence depends on that big dinosaur extinction.

But we explore a big ‘what if?’: if the asteroid hadn’t hit, could our primate ancestors still have found a niche – somewhere, somehow - to evolve into humans? Or would evolution have taken a radically different path: would dinosaurs have developed human levels of intelligence? Is highly intelligent life inevitable, if you give it long enough to develop? We look to modern day birds - descendants of certain small dinosaurs who survived the asteroid strike - to glean some clues.

With artist Memo Kosemen, palaeontologists Elsa Panciroli and Darren Naish, palaeobiologist Anjali Goswami, and Professor of Comparative Cognition Nicola Clayton

Presented by Marnie Chesterton and Anand Jagatia Produced by Cathy Edwards for the BBC World Service

(Photo: Silhouette of people and Dino. Credit: Getty Images)

Transcript

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calmer place within. Listen on BBC Sounds. Imagine you're on this crabland and from the bottom of a tree you hear this rustling.

0:44.7

And you're curious what's going on down there.

0:48.7

Out emerges an animal the size of a donkey, but it walks on two legs.

0:56.3

It's got a long tail extending behind it, and short wings tipped with mitten-like digits.

1:06.8

The most interesting part is the face that looks at you,

1:10.7

with a long crow-like beak and two big eyes looking at you.

1:17.0

Something in them tells you this thing is self-aware and it's looking at you in puzzlement.

1:26.0

Perhaps if you're lucky you would hear it speak and the sound would be like that of a

1:31.0

parrot crossed with the cracklings of a crow or a magpie.

1:35.0

And perhaps it's asking you, where do you come from?

1:41.0

Strange Traveer.

1:49.3

Welcome Strange Traveler to a parallel world.

1:57.2

I'm Marnie Chesterton and you just met an avisapians, an intelligent dinosaur as imagined by Turkish artist memo Cosaman musing on the world as it might have

2:02.3

been if dinosaurs hadn't died out.

2:05.0

That's the hypothetical world we're exploring on crowd science from the BBC World Service,

2:10.0

inspired by a question from our listener Sunil.

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