Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics

and the Trump presidency for the new Spectator USA website. I'm joined today by Jacob Harbrun,

the editor of the national interest, a Spectator USA columnist and one of our, in fact, I think the most frequent of our Americano guests.

Jacob, thank you for joining us.

Let's talk about Kavanaugh, because the Senate have just voted on Kleture, which means that it looks very much as though the nomination will happen.

In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed now.

And finally, this huge drama that has gripped America of the last two, three weeks, particularly, can maybe come to an end.

What do you think?

What's your snap verdict on the, on the fact that he's now going to be a Supreme Court justice?

No, no, Freddie. It will not come to an end, no matter what the outcome of the vote is.

It's true that Kavanaugh will likely become as Supreme Court justice.

Susan Collins has said she'll announce her decision at 3 p.m.

today. But if Kavanaugh is in fact a Supreme Court justice, the Democrats will use this as much as they can in the coming weeks to try and galvanize their supporters to show up the polls

in November. At the same time, the Republicans, and especially President Trump, have seized

upon Democratic opposition to Kavanaugh to try and motivate the Republican base. So I don't think that this issue is ending at all.

The only question is, as Lenin said, who, whom, which party will benefit if Kavanaugh is confirmed?

Well, my instinct, and I suspect you'll disagree with me, is that the Republicans

will benefit because I think that the Democrats were actually looking quite good before the

whole Kavanaugh. And actually, latest polls suggest that they're dipping a bit,

and it may well be because of this,

because I actually think a lot of people were quite disgusted by the Democrats.

They're appalled by it.

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