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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Worst. Transition. Ever.

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In the summer of 2020, a group of people tried to imagine the most likely outcomes of the presidential election. They nailed it. But what may come next is harder to fathom.  Guest: Rosa Brooks, co-founder of the Transition Integrity Project.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The last few days have found President Trump engaged in a linguistic battle against the truth.

0:11.5

It's as if his mind knows the jig is up, but the rest of him just can't recognize it,

0:16.7

not yet.

0:18.2

Trump's still firmly claiming he's won a second term, still deploying Rudy Giuliani to

0:22.3

go on TV and defend all those lawsuits he's filed against election administrators all over

0:28.0

the country.

0:29.8

But then the President will have these little moments where reality seems to creep in, almost

0:36.1

to the subliminal level.

0:38.2

It started on Friday with a coronavirus press conference where Trump almost nearly acknowledged

0:45.3

the incoming administration.

0:47.0

Ideally we won't go to a lockdown.

0:49.4

I will not go.

0:50.4

This administration will not be going to a lockdown.

0:52.9

Hopefully the whatever happens in the future who knows which administration will be, I guess,

0:58.0

this time we'll tell, but I can tell you this administration will not go to a lockdown.

1:02.9

They won't be in this until a lockdown.

1:05.2

On Sunday, Trump tweeted that Joe Biden won the election, which seemed like breaking news,

1:11.2

until he went on to claim the election was rigged.

1:15.0

Right now I feel like we're in this, like, in between.

1:17.2

I can't tell.

1:18.2

Are we in a crisis?

1:19.2

Are we not?

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