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Worm Wars! Invasive species and the stories we tell about them

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When Nora Saks learned that a "toxic, self-cloning worm that poops out of its mouth was invading Maine", she started sounding the alarm about the impending eco-doom. Until, that is, state experts clued her into the "real threat"; a different creepy crawly wriggling towards The Pine Tree State's gardens and precious forests, and fast. In an attempt to find out more about this real threat, Ben Brock Johnson and Nora tunnel down a wormhole, encountering a long history of xenophobic rhetoric about so-called invasive species, and some hard truths about the field of invasion biology itself.  This week we’re featuring a story from our friend at WBUR’s Endless Thread, a podcast that digs into the internet's vast and curious ecosystem of online communities to find untold histories, unsolved mysteries, and other jaw-dropping stories online and IRL. Featuring: Banu Subramaniam, Dov Sax, Bob McNally,  Gary Fish, and Regina Smith   SUPPORT Donate to support the show before February 22nd and get your hands on a limited edition Outside/In opossum camp mug! Subscribe to our FREE newsletter. Follow Outside/In on Instagram or Twitter, or join our private discussion group on Facebook   LINKS Endless Thread (WBUR) "A toxic, self-cloning worm that poops out of its mouth is invading Maine" (Bangor Daily News) Reddit post on r/oddlyterrifying about hammerhead worms lindsaynikole's viral TikTok video on hammerhead worms "The Aliens Have Landed! Reflections on the Rhetoric of Biological Invasions",  Banu Subramaniam The Sax Research Lab at Brown University Maine Department of Agriculture, Conservation and Forestry fact sheet on jumping worms "Identify and Report Jumping Worms in Maine", UMaine Cooperative Forestry Research Unit informational video Cornell University fact sheet on Asian Jumping Worms UMass Extension Invasive Jumping Worm FAQ "Cancel Earthworms" (The Atlantic) "Invasive 'Jumping Worms' Threaten Trees in Maine and Elsewhere"  (NECN) "Scientists Sound The Alarm About Invasive 'Crazy Worms' Found in Maine" (Maine Public) "Maine Gardener: Invasion of the jumping worms" (Portland Press Herald)   CREDITS This episode was produced by Nora Saks and Dean Russell of WBUR’s Endless Thread Co-hosts: Nora Saks and Ben Brock Johnson.  Mix and sound design: Matt Reed Endless Thread’s team includes Amory Sivertson, Dean Russell, Quincy Walters, Grace Tatter,  Amy Gorel, Paul Vaitkus, and Emily Jankowski Outside/In is hosted by Nate Hegyi, and produced by Taylor Quimby, Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Jessica Hunt.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Nate Hegey, this is Outside In.

0:04.0

We featured a lot of cool animals on the show lately.

0:07.5

Groundhogs, possums, cuddlefish.

0:11.7

Okay, so I guess we don't have cuddlefish sound effects.

0:16.5

Pretty sure that was a whale.

0:19.3

Anyways, some of these animals are more easily identified with than others, so we asked

0:25.1

you, do you have any animals that you relate to?

0:28.6

Hi, my name is Belana and I live in Southwest Pennsylvania.

0:32.2

Belana was at a state park once with her family when they saw something rustling in the top

0:36.0

of a tree.

0:37.2

And we get on our binoculars and we realize that it is a porcupine.

0:40.9

Later she discovered that it's not uncommon for porcupines to walk out to the end of a branch,

0:45.8

looking for a snack, fall out, and then literally impale themselves on their own quills.

0:51.6

And I just really relate to them.

0:53.4

They're these solitary creatures that just want to sleep and eat and they're their own

1:00.4

worst enemy.

1:01.4

They're just big, clumsy snackers.

1:06.8

If we ever do an episode on porcupines, that's definitely going to be the title.

1:11.4

Okay, here's one more.

1:13.7

Outside In Listener Lena said that after they moved from Brooklyn to Vermont for college,

1:17.8

they were feeling lost and confused about who they were.

1:20.7

Then after me and I found myself walking around in the woods with some new friends, I heard

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