The Oh, I'm not. I was just having lunch with Stacy and a friend of ours Curtis and said hey I got to get

going Craig and I are doing some podcast today and Stacy said oh what are you

doing, hon what's today's topics in the How did Jesus look at life series? And I said, oh, we're going to address gender and

homosexuality. And she looks at me with these big wide eyes and she's like, looks at me with these big wide eyes, and she's like, you guys, man, you aren't scared about addressing that stuff?

Mm-hmm.

Oh, yeah.

Why is it that this feels so delicate, so, you know, filled with landmines?

What's with that, Craig?

Well, first, I just so agree. If there's one topic that I just, there's something inside of me

wants to steer clear of, it's gender and homosexuality. I think, John, for a couple of reasons. One, I mean the whole

tide of our culture and our age and our time just has one perspective on this and for us to hold

anything other than that is to be viewed is intolerant, judgmental, and just there's this assignment put

upon you if you don't tow the cultural line on these things.

Oh, it's so true.

Hey friends, welcome to the Ransom TARP Podcast.

I'm John Eldridge, and with me is Craig McConnell,

and you're jumping into a conversation that we're having

about the conversation we're about to have.

And yeah, the tiptoe, walk on age shells, don't bring it up issues of gender, masculinity, are there gender differences?

You know, is that important?

And then into, well then what about issues of same sex attraction issues

of homosexuality and I just want to say, gang, we're not waiting into this to try and pick a fight.

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