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The Documentary Podcast

Worlds Apart

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The pandemic has accelerated de-globalisation. Governments worry now about the length and strength of medical supply chains and cross-border trade and travel. But globalisation has had its critics for quite a time. Nationalism has been powered in many countries by the belief that a globalised world has led to rising inequality and fewer middle income jobs in richer countries. And our global institutions - the IMF, World Bank and World Trade Organisation - are under attack too. Philip Coggan considers the long view, looking back to the last great wave of globalisation that ended abruptly with the Great War of 1914-1918.

Transcript

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0:00.0

A global superpower is being challenged by a fast-growing rival.

0:07.0

The emergence of huge new companies is prompting a backlash against monopoly power.

0:12.0

Goods, money and people are moving around the world faster than ever before.

0:17.0

And public discontent is being driven by a combination of nationalism and economic insecurity.

0:24.7

Sounds familiar?

0:26.1

Those concerns were widespread at the turn of the 20th century in the run up to World War

0:30.4

1.

0:31.4

Globalization first emerged at this time as Britain was the superpower,

0:35.9

being challenged by a rising Germany.

0:38.6

And the monopoly power being scrutinized was the big steel and oil companies in the US.

0:44.0

Nationalism was also on the rise.

0:47.0

Are we seeing history repeat itself?

0:50.0

After COVID-19, I think we're going to see trade wars and things going from bad to worse.

0:58.1

There are certainly stresses and strains out there that if you're an economist or a historian I think you'd be feeling uneasy about currently.

1:07.0

This is worlds apart on the BBC World Service.

1:11.0

I'm Philip Kogan of The Economist and in this program I'm taking a long view at

1:16.1

globalization, what it looked like a hundred years ago and how it looks today.

1:20.8

Was there a time when we reap the benefits of globalization and

1:24.5

avoided its pitfalls and can we pull off that trick again?

1:29.3

The crisis simply gives us some possibilities. I don't think it predetermines which

1:36.6

path we're going to go. There is both a good path and a bad pass. The first great globalization was essentially a technological phenomenon

1:48.6

driven by the new steam technologies of the Industrial Revolution.

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