Worldcoin's Alex Blania: "Proof of personhood in an age of AI fakery”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times' tech correspondent Danny Fortson rings on Alex Blania, chief executive of Worldcoin developer Tools for Humanity, to talk about launching its iris-scanning orb around the world (5:00), testifying in Nairobi (9:40), signing people up (12:45), what problems it is trying to solve (16:10), proof of personhood in the age of fakery (19:20), the role of cryptocurrency (22:30), not offering crypto in America (26:10), the guiding philosophy (28:20), universal basic income (30:30), growing up in Germany (34:40), getting an email from Sam Altman (36:00), his worst day (40:10), privacy (42:45), and having their orbs seized (45:40).

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0:00.0	Yo, technology.
0:03.0	What is it all about?
0:04.5	And then there's actually this other story, which is very wrong, is that I got detained and whatever.
0:09.8	Oh, I did see that. Yeah, so you were not detained.
0:11.9	I did not get, I were not detained.
0:14.3	No one got arrested. No one got detained.
0:16.4	So that's, I got so many personal friends reaching out to me and expecting me to sit in a Kenya prison.
0:22.9	It did not happen.
0:23.9	Actually, in fact, they were very friendly.
0:26.7	And I was very happy that I went to Kenya.
0:29.4	Do they still have your orbs?
0:31.5	They still have our orbs, yeah.
0:33.9	Which is annoying.
0:49.3	Okay. which is annoying. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley,
0:51.8	your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.
0:56.4	I'm your host, Danny Fawson.
0:58.7	And this week, we are talking about AI, crypto, and the future of humanity, obviously.
1:05.2	I'm talking, of course, about world coin.
1:09.8	If you do not know what worldoin is, I'll tell you.
1:13.6	It's a startup based out here in San Francisco.
1:15.6	It was launched three or four years ago by Sam Altman, who of course is the CEO of OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT.
1:23.2	And it's kind of a banana's idea.
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