Hey, I'm your host, Jessica Renan. I'm an author and Horticultural therapy practitioner.

And with my company Basker, I help people and businesses use nature and gardening

for health, creativity, and social well-being. One little reminder before we get to today's guest

that my Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Small Business Saturday, buy my shit Sunday. Sale is happening until December 1st. I'm offering

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Hello at Basterogartagners.com. I will talk to you about this. I will help with your anxiety of maybe being nervous

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then that's okay. Then you'll know that too. So, $50 off using the code grow,

bascargardens.com. And if you go up into the right hand corner there's a little

thing that says current services and you'll find them there. All right, today's guest. I'm talking to

Ali Hollab. She is inside and outside's pop culture reporter. We're doing some nature news first and then some pop culture news.

And it's just fun. And I have a favor. Do you like this type of episode? Because I really want to bring

Allie back more, but I also like having guests. So maybe every other week Allie comes back and we do some nature news and some

pop culture news. See what you think about this episode. You can email me hello at bascargarns.com

or if you're on Spotify, you can always leave a comment in the episode. And just as a little

setup of who Allie is, she is a stylist and personal shopper. She is a huge pop culture news connoisseur. She has more parisocial bravo relationships of anyone I know. And she's on TikTok, so I don't have to be. She tells me everything. In this episode, we talk about the largest recorded spider web in history.

That's our nature news. Holiday movies, Hallmark versus Lifetime, some housewives things.

Like, why do we like to watch these women? And what does it all mean? We get to the bottom of it,

at least the bottom of our feelings. But first, before we get to Allie, let's hear from this week's sponsor, Samain, a brand rooted in nature, in science, and one that you can truly trust.

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