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How you doing Ed?

I'm pretty good.

Yeah, it's one of those strange games, isn't it?

They fall between two stores.

Either one team really, really wants to win it so they can leave the tournament out on a high or teams just can't be bothered

anymore and play all the reserves like England in 1990.

The key thing about third place playoff matches is that they're great if the host nation is in them because it normally means

that the host nation's done rather well got to the semi you know Germany and of course

South Korea that was an absolute classic that was in terms of football just in terms of the kind of

reception of the players and the way that I remember Hakan Sukur applauding the

South Korean fans. Okay, it's a quite a moving image that for some reason

has stuck in my mind all these years.

Yes, it was a pretty dull tournament, no, 2002.

But yeah, it was good that the Koreans did so well.

Shamed South Africans didn't, I suppose, and it's kind of been represented in the

attendances at some of the games since we last spoke.

I mean, empty gaps in all the stadiums

for almost every game even the semi-finals I think that if you put a World Cup in a

country where nobody in that country except for the kind of privileged few can afford tickets to the games,

you're going to get empty seats.

Yes, and that's what we got.

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