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To set the tone for the meeting, I will read an extract from chapter one, Bill's story,

pages seven and eight of the big book. They did not need to tell me, I knew and almost welcome the

idea. It was a devastating blow to my pride, who had thought so well of myself and my abilities,

of my capacity to surmount obstacles, was cornered at last. Now I was to plunge into the dark, joining the endless possession of

Sots who had gone on before. I thought of my poor wife. There had been much happiness after all.

What would I not give to make amends? But that was over now.

And the topic of tonight's meeting is working step eight with the sponsor and Tim will share anything between 30 and 45 minutes on the topic, after which the floor will be open for questions rather than the typical sharing. And with that, I will now hand over to Tim.

Hello everyone, Tim Holic.

So step eight, the book is slightly tricky here because when you get to, when you get to step eight, it says, by the way, you've already got your list. That's a little, little eight

appearing there. You've already, you've already got your list. It says you made it when you took step

four. Well, I mean, in the same sense that, you know, well, if you want to write a letter, all the letters are already in

the alphabet, you just have to put them in the right order. It's a bit like that with step eight.

Yeah, you've done the list, but step four covers an awful lot of other material as well.

So I think the best way to do this is to treat step eight as a completely new exercise.

You can't do a step nine off the material and step forward, just can't do it.

It needs to be, all the extraneous material needs to be stripped out and you need to have a forensic

analysis of just your behaviour. So obviously the work done in step four is not wasted. It forms

the basis for the work in step eight. As with step four, so when you're doing step four, you want to get the scope of

the exercise clear first. And I think it's the same with step eight. So it's interesting. If you

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