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we're going to be jumping around in this thing and let's let's go over to the doctor's opinion

all right in the doctor's opinion on the very

first page it talks about in the course of his third treatment they're talking about bill Wilson

so if he had the third if he had three treatments it means the first two didn't work so bill had a little

slipping problem here.

So if you've been to AA more than once,

you might take encouragement from the fact that one of the founders

didn't get this until his third treatment.

He acquired certain ideas concerning a possible means of recovery.

As part of his rehabilitation, he commenced to present his conceptions to other alcoholics,

impressing upon them that they must do likewise with still others.

You will hear in AA meetings from well-meaning, well-intentioned people saying, don't do

any 12-step work until you've done the steps.

That is in direct contradiction with what I just read.

And so we use the book as our guideline not the opinions of our members on the next page

in the fourth edition it's xxvii down about three-pits of the way down the page it says in our belief

find that and I'll continue in our belief any picture of the alcoholic which leads out this physical factor is incomplete.

If that's a true statement and we believe it is, then the corollary of that is equally true, the opposite.

And that is any picture of recovery from alcoholism that leads out the physical factor is incomplete.

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