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Can you, Jim Geegan!

Geechap! Greetings dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, Great Dear

This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcast brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

I'm actually talking to you on a Saturday, rare Saturday recording, not that it will make any difference really to the quality of this conversation except for the fact our guest might be occasionally looking over his shoulder to watch what the score on a game is.

As I've told you guys, I'm leaving for vacation and business

work, business travel, and my friend and friend of the pod, both friend of the pod in the sense,

capital P, John Bedouarts, but also friend of this podcast,

lowercase B.

David Bonson has a new book out, and I am a firm believer

that books need friends, and friends books need friends. and this is an exciting and interesting book and

we might actually have some fun disagreement I'm not sure it is called

full-time work and the meaning of life.

Also, David Bonson is like head of,

it's not since people hate this joke,

but not since Lou Gehrig got

Lou Gehrig's disease, has there been a bigger coincidence than David Bonson being head of the

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