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ReThinking

WorkLife: Protecting your time with Linda Babcock

ReThinking

TED

Worklife Podcasts, Adam Grant, Rethinking Podcast, Ted Podcast Adam Grant, Organizational Psychology, Ted Talks, Adam Grant Podcasts, Society & Culture

4.7626 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this season of WorkLife, we’re pairing each of our regular episodes with a companion interview to do a deeper dive into the topic. This is the deeper dive for our episode on how to say no. Linda Babcock is a professor emerita of economics at Carnegie Mellon and co-author of “The No Club,” a club of people who help each other set boundaries. Linda and Adam share some of their personal struggles and lessons with around no, discuss Linda’s research on why women take on more non-promotable tasks at work, and explore novel strategies for us all to guard our time against people who don’t respect it.


To listen to our previous episode, "How to Say No," click here!


Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Linda Babcock (Website: thenoclub.com


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The No Club: Putting a Stop to Women’s Dead-End Work


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0:00.0

Sean has had some good ideas over the years.

0:05.0

But using Canva was a really good one.

0:08.0

Sean designed some social posts to promote his friend's car boot sale.

0:13.0

They looked good.

0:15.0

Really, really good.

0:17.0

Next thing he knows, someone came and bought the lot, including the car.

0:24.5

Now Sean doesn't know how he's going to get home.

0:28.0

Thanks, Canva.

0:30.2

Gina's a muncher.

0:32.4

Jackson Nibbler.

0:34.8

Lucy likes to linger.

0:39.7

But not for too long And Harry

0:40.8

Thank you Harry

0:43.1

Macardo is the crunchy biscuit stick

0:45.5

dipped in smooth milk chocolate

0:47.3

And makes other biscuits look so

0:48.8

Ordinary

0:49.7

Macado is deliciously Moorish

0:52.3

However you enjoy it

0:53.5

Make every day more Macardo.

0:56.5

Grab a pack in your local store today.

0:58.5

Find Macardo in the Biscuit Isle.

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