Hello and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast.

I'm your host, Mike Mason, and I'm joined by my regular co-host and ThoughtWorks Chief

Technology Officer Rebecca Parsons.

Hello, Rebecca.

Hello, Mike.

Good to see you again.

And Rebecca will be doing a kind of split role hosting and guesting on today's podcast. And we're also joined today by Eric Dernenberg,

who's the head of technology for ThoughtWorks, Germany, and a longtime collaborator of ours. He works

with us on the technology radar and in running

the tech organization at ThoughtWorks. Hello, Eric. Hello, Mike, and hello Rebecca. Today's topic

is one that came up during a radar meeting, and that was the realization that 50% of code

today is running in the browser. This seemed like an important topic to dive into, and especially the implications of that fact.

So, Eric, let's start with what do we mean when we say 50% of code is running in the browser?

Yeah, I think I made the statement in a discussion where I don't exactly remember the context,

but it was referring back to an engagement with a client that I had been

working with where we're writing a large application. In fact, I can be open about it. We have

the clearance from the clients to talk about it. It is the application that Mercedes-Benz is

using for selling all their cars in the German market. And this is a business application, obviously.

It is not a B2C application.

It will be used by the sales representatives.

And while working on that, we recognized that the application was, of course, split into a part that runs in the web browser, a part that runs on the servers,

and then some backend systems in the large enterprise that Daimler is.

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