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One of the fascinating things that got me so excited about telling this story was you have this term, the method or method acting, and people who teach it and practice it will tell you it is one thing.

And then the public will tell you it's this other thing that is almost diametrically opposed to it.

Welcome back to working. I'm your host June Thomas.

And I am your other host, Karen Han.

Karen, I recognize the voice in the cold open. That was our working co-host Isaac Butler. How come he gets to be the guest this week?

It's because he paid me off. I'm just kidding. It's because he wrote a new book called The Method How the 20th Century Learned to Act.

Well, anyone who's been listening to the show for a while will probably have heard some stories from Isaac's writing process of that book in earlier episodes.

But in case people don't know, what is the book about?

It is all about the history of method acting, and I won't go further than that because I actually do ask Isaac to explain further like what it is, and he's the expert, so just listen on.

He sure is the expert. Okay, well, I'm really excited to hear this interview.

But first, I believe that you have an extra segment for sleep post members. What will they hear?

We talk a little bit about the really incredible scale that the book is operating on and how Isaac figured out what was and wasn't necessary in terms of larger historical context for explaining the history of the method, and just how much he wrote and consequently had to cut down.

Oh, okay, that sounds fantastic.

And fortunately, it's incredibly easy to subscribe to sleep plus, so you can hear it.

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