I'm Jonathan Braylock, I'm Dra. Milligan, and I'm James III. And we're those of Black

Man Kenchup in Hollywood. It's a comedic podcast that reviews films with leading actors

of color and analyze them in the context of race and Hollywood's diversity issues.

Yeah. Listen to new episodes on Mondays. Find us wherever you get your podcasts. I don't

care where you get them. I just want you to listen. Don't threaten the people we need

them to listen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry, guys. Listen. Listen to us. Yeah. Yeah. Put on a happy

voice. The focus of this was sort of to get stories to come out of a game, right? People

aren't going to tell a story, an interesting story, but you know, I got hit and I lost seven

hit points. But if it was I got hit and I lost my right hand and dropped my weapon, then

suddenly that's a moment, right? And everyone understands that. Welcome back to working. I'm

your host, Karen Han. And I am your other host, Isaac Butler. Hello, Isaac. So who did you

talk to for this week's episode? This week, I talked to Tarn and Zach Adams, their

brothers and together, they created the video game, Dwarf Fortress, which is well, one of

the most important games of the century. Well, can you explain to us? Well, number one,

how you came across Dwarf Fortress and the number two, why it's one of the most important

games of the century? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I actually don't remember how I first

came across it. Probably just because like I like colony sim games, which is at its heart

what Dwarf Fortress is, it actually kind of birthed that genre and it remains both the

most complicated and the weirdest game in that genre. And so I've wanted to interview

the Adams brothers for a long time, because Dwarf Fortress is just, it's a totally bizarre,

quixotic, eccentric experiment of a game that not only created the genre of the colony

sim, but it's incredibly influential. Without Dwarf Fortress, there's no The Sims, there's

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