I'm Jonathan Braylock, I'm Dra. Milligan, and I'm James III. And we're those of Black

Man Kenchup in Hollywood. It's a comedic podcast that reviews films with leading actors

of color and analyze them in the context of race and Hollywood's diversity issues.

Yeah, listen to new episodes on Mondays. Find us wherever you get your podcasts. I don't

care where you get them. I just want you to listen. Don't threaten the people we need

them to listen. Okay, okay, okay, sorry guys, listen, listen to us. Yeah, put on a happy

voice. I knew that people didn't think of people like me narrating books, but they also

didn't think of people like me as the audience. So I think what this structure enabled me to

do is to set up a mode of interrogating both of those things. I'm the narrator, and you're

presuming a lot about me, and I'm going to occasionally yell at you about this. Welcome back to

working. I'm your host, June Thomas. And I am your other host, Isaac Butler. Isaac? So nice

to see you again on Zoom. Thank you. It's been a while since we've co-hosted. Our schedule

is, let us just say, elusive. It evades all understanding, except to our great producer,

Cameron Druze. And that's how it should be. Tell me, who's voice did we hear at the top of

the show? Ah, yes, that was the voice of the novelist, essayist, and teacher, V.V. Ganeshaanathan.

And why did you want to speak with her? Well, Sugi, and I should say, that's the name she

uses in everyday conversation. She wasn't like, please, call me V.V. Has a novel that just

came out called Brotherless Night. It's a novel about a Tamil family, navigating the Sri

Lankan Civil War. It recently got this kind of life-changingly wild rave review in the New

York Times book review. It was actually the front cover of the insert and everything. And

it's a, it's good book, and I wanted to talk to her about it. That sounds amazing. I'm

very excited to hear this interview, but I believe that you have an extra segment that

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