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Hello and welcome to Working Over Time, the advice focused hooch to regular old workings turner I'm Isaac Butler.

And I'm Karen Han.

Karen, how the hell have you been?

So good. I always feel like I only remember that I should be making like some kind of metaphor or comparison about working overtime reworking until we record.

And then I'm like, I should have come up with something smarter maybe because I feel like I always use just the default option.

Right. I just come up with it's like the first pairing that comes to my head is the one I write down.

Which this time was turner and hooch, which is really up to date reference that I'm sure all the kids will get because you know.

I mean, I get it. So you've got there you go.

Anyway, what are we talking about today?

I thought maybe we might talk about like recharging in between big projects and like what you do when you finish a big project because I feel like I'm still kind of in the middle of that.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you are now done with at least the writing parts of your book like your book is finished.

So you've just finished a big project, right?

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