Big Brother sees you listening to podcasts big brother knows that you've heard so many that you think to yourself

I've got interests. I'm funny. Should I start a podcast the answer to that question is no big brother sees it all

The ultimate social experiment returns big brother starts the 8th of October on ITV 2 and ITV X

When you do a thing that you've done a lot of and you have reached a certain level of competency at

you have a certain pleasure in knowing that you can do what you can do and with this I was

constantly anxious and upset that I didn't know what I was doing and didn't know

whether I could do what I could do

Hello and welcome back to working I'm your host Karen Han and I'm your other host June Thomas

Hi, June. Who did you talk to this week?

This week's guest is Rebecca Meade. She is of course a staff writer at the New Yorker

But I wanted to talk to her right now because she has a new book out which is about returning to the UK

After living in New York for 30 years and what is the book called it is called Homeland a memoir of departure and

Return and it's Rebecca's third book, but it's the first time that she has written really a memoir and it is about a big life

change about a big

uprooting and a re-rooting if you like and so I was really interested to hear how writing this book

was different from the kind of writing that she does you know frequently for the New Yorker

but also how it was different from her other two books

And what do slight plus listeners have to look forward to this week?

I asked Rebecca for a practical moving tip if there was anything she regretted leaving behind

And for a piece of art that she thinks represents Britain as it really is today

I particularly like the practical moving tip part because I think that's advice that all of us can use me

Even if we're not necessarily feel like our our work is that creative everyone needs to find an easier way to move

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