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Working: Reality TV That Helps People Feel Seen

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Tv & Film, Arts, Music

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

This week, host June Thomas talks to casting director and producer Logan Clark, whose credits include reality TV series like American Idol, The Masked Singer, and the excellent HBO reality series Legendary. In the interview, Logan explains how and why he got into reality show casting and what the job entails. Then he talks about the casting process for Legendary and the importance of featuring members of underrepresented groups on reality TV.  After the interview, June and co-host Isaac Butler discuss both representation and exploitation in reality TV. In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Logan talks about some of his very favorite reality TV shows.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at slate.com/workingplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

As a casting director it's my job to make sure that we have incredible characters that not only have what I always call like the X and the Y axis.

0:18.0

They have the talent, they have the personality, but they have that Z axis, they have the depth they have a story we want to find people

0:25.2

that audiences are going to fall in love with.

0:30.0

Welcome back to working I'm your host Isaac Butler and I'm your host, Isaac Butler.

0:33.3

And I'm your other host, June Thomas.

0:35.8

And June, whose bright sunny, friendly voice was that that we heard at the top of the show?

0:41.7

Isaac, that was Logan Clark who is a casting director for reality TV shows.

0:48.0

Incredible.

0:49.0

So why did you want to speak with Logan specifically?

0:53.4

Well, I don't watch a lot of reality TV to Sevelis, but when I watch I watch hard.

1:00.3

And Logan did the casting on a show that I absolutely loved.

1:04.0

That show was called Legendary and it ran for three seasons

1:08.4

and was a reality competition set in the world of ball culture as in the world of houses and vogging the

1:15.9

ball culture shown in the movie Paris is burning rather than the kind of ballroom

1:20.1

dancing you see on dancing with stars. That show was

1:24.4

outrageously entertaining but it also felt very important in the way it gave

1:29.6

representation to a part of queer culture that is not very visible to say the least and is often thought of as

1:37.5

belonging to another generation far in the past.

1:41.5

Well I'm going to restrain myself from shouting butch queens over and over and over again into the microphone in honor of Paris is burning and ball culture and instead just ask what do our slate Plus listeners have waiting for them?

1:54.0

Well, I will also resist noting that I am giving School Boy Realness, which one time on the

1:59.4

street somebody actually said to me, are you giving school bar realness?

2:02.6

And I was like, oh my God, I have never been more seen.

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