I teach a lot of music and I teach a lot of music and I teach a lot of comics as well.

And I think that comics is a great tool for education.

It's a great like symbolic container that can stand for just about anything.

Welcome back to working. I'm your host, June Thomas.

And I'm your other host, Nate Chenen.

Nate, it is so nice to see you again.

Tell me, whose voice did we hear at the top of the show?

That is Dave Chisholm, an acclaimed graphic novelist who specializes in stories about jazz, rooted both in research and his own experience.

So, he is a jazz musician who also draws comics about jazz music and musicians?

That is correct.

He's an expert with a highly specific niche, but I dare say, even if you're not a jazz maniac like me,

I think there's a lot in his work to get excited about.

Wow. And why did you want to speak to him right now?

Well, I've been an admirer of Dave's work for several years. And I was just really blown away by his latest book, which is called Miles Davis and The Search for the Sound, which, you know, the title should give you

some idea of the subject and scope of this book. Indeed. Wow, that is fascinating. I am very

excited to hear this interview, but tell me, do you have an extra segment that's exclusively

for Slate Plus members? And if so, what will they hear? June, how did you know?

You know, so Dave, we had in Dave a connoisseur of both the music of Miles Davis and the world

of comics, and I am an expert in one of those two things. But I wanted to hit him up for recommendations

in both areas. So I asked him for three essential Miles Davis albums and three mind-blowing

graphic novels. So that's, you know, it's tough to to winnow it down to just three, but I asked him

not to overthink it. and he really came through.

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