Hello and welcome to another episode of Working Over Time, the bi-weekly Advice Focus

2023 Frazier Reboot to Workings Cheers, which somehow has never been rebooted.

I'm your host, June Thomas.

And I'm your other host, Nate Chenin.

So June, what are we talking about today?

Well, Nate, in earlier Working Over Time episodes, we've talked about consuming art in the

service of creativity, things like breaking down articles or songs to learn from them

and things like that.

But today, I want to talk about bringing our creative skills and talents to actually

experiencing art.

I recently read Rubensburg, the Creative Act, a way of being.

And in it, Rubens talks about creativity as a fundamental aspect of being human.

He says, creativity is about paying attention and taking pains to perceive the world in

fresh ways.

What's more, it's not necessarily about making things.

And I think, for a lot of people, that's the goal, or maybe even the fantasy, having

a book full of poems or a collection of completed journals or maybe even a shelf full of published

books.

But Rubens says, that isn't the purpose of creativity.

At one point, he says, we tend to think of the artist's work as the output.

The real work of the artist is a way of being in the world.

And so one of the ways of being in the world as an artist that Rubens describes is being

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