The only thing that I couldn't prepare for was the shows. I couldn't imagine what it would

feel like to play for that many people, nor could I imagine playing for that energetic

of a crowd. The fans are very loud.

Welcome back to Working. I'm your host, June Thomas. And I'm your other host, Nate Chinen.

Nate, it is so nice to see you again. Tell me, who's voice did we hear at the top of the show?

That was Kalea Van De Verr, a jazz trombonist and composer. A jazz trombonist. Why did you want

to speak with her? Well, Kalea is actually one of the more exciting young artists on the

improvised music scene today. She's someone I've been watching with great interest since her debut

album in 2019, which was titled In Bloom. But what led me to invite her on working was an

extraordinary experience that she's recently had as part of the record-breaking arena and stadium

tour by none other than Harry Styles. What? Yeah. So what was that like? I wanted to hear about it.

And I was especially intrigued to know how it had influenced her own music.

Yeah. No doubt. Well, I am very excited to hear this interview. But something tells me that you

have an extra segment exclusively for Slate Plus members. What will they hear? Yeah, we had some

fun with that. Kalea is Juilliard trained. She's a band leader and composer and prolific collaborator.

But she's also been a member of some horn sections, you know, in rock bands and pop bands and

not just with Harry Styles. So I asked her for a few of her own personal touchstones. What are

some favorite horn sections and what makes them great? Wow. If you are a member of Slate Plus,

you'll get to hear that at the end of the episode. And if you aren't, it's really, really easy to

join as a Slate Plus member. You get to hear extra segments on this show and others like the waves

and the culture gap fest. You'll get bonus episodes of podcasts like Big Mood, Little Mood,

and Slow Burn. And of course, you will never hit a paywall on Slate.com. To learn more, go to

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